Colorado/Canyon SUV

"HammerheadFistpunch" (hammerheadfistpunch) 10/21/2014 at 12:48 • Filed to: Truck Yeah

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Do you like the new Colorado/Canyon? Want to know what the 2.8 duramax diesel is going to be like? Wish you could get all that as an SUV? Lobby Chevy for the international trailblazer.

Andrew St. Pierre white is a British overland adventurer living in South Africa with 20 plus years of overland travel experience producing a show for that market as well as the owner of a new line of outfitters for that task. To sum up his review? In short he loves it, and frankly I do to. His reviews are typically British, dry and factual while still being interesting somehow but he has a very practical approach that I like. It looks great, its got the right engine, its a very well engineered product and if the reviews that are coming out of the canyorado are any indication it would be a killer competitor to the 4runner. Who's with me? Who wants a new trailblazer?

Logansteno: Bought a VW? > HammerheadFistpunch 10/21/2014 at 13:03

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I'd kill for a new Trailblazer. Slap the American-ized front end on that bad boy and send it over here!

HammerheadFistpunch > Logansteno: Bought a VW? 10/21/2014 at 13:06

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For reals, what a cool vehicle to continue to bring the fight against Toyota.

HammerheadFistpunch > HammerheadFistpunch 10/21/2014 at 13:09

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FYI Toyota Fortuna is a Hilux based SUV, similar to a usdm 4runner.

HammerheadFistpunch > HammerheadFistpunch 10/21/2014 at 13:10

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FYI the 2.8 in this car makes 200 hp and 368 ft-lbs. Sounds perfect to me.

Chris Clarke > HammerheadFistpunch 10/21/2014 at 13:11

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Gets a star because Pilatus.

HammerheadFistpunch > Chris Clarke 10/21/2014 at 13:12

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I'll take it. Its a great frame.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > HammerheadFistpunch 10/21/2014 at 14:03

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I'll take the 4Runner, thanks. That looks like a Chinese knockoff Kia Sorrento.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > HammerheadFistpunch 10/21/2014 at 14:03

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Needs more Atlas.

HammerheadFistpunch > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 10/21/2014 at 14:09

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well the hilux isn't exactlty a looker to start, but the fortuna is pretty tough.

HammerheadFistpunch > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 10/21/2014 at 14:09

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over the 2.8? nope. I love the atlas, but i would take that 2.8 all day every day.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > HammerheadFistpunch 10/21/2014 at 14:10

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I mean if it's sold in the U.S., it will get a gas burner standard. That is where it needs more Atlas.

HammerheadFistpunch > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 10/21/2014 at 14:15

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if it was sold in the US it would get the 3.6. Its a fine motor, its no ATLAS, but its okay. Frankly I think they should have been using the 4.3 ecotec III but who am I?

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > HammerheadFistpunch 10/21/2014 at 14:18

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The 3.6 is a good motor, but it is a car motor. It's power curve is that of a car, which sucks for an SUV. Souce: drive something with car like power curve. I don't understand why they don't use the 4.3, I would even think that it probably weighs less.

HammerheadFistpunch > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 10/21/2014 at 15:46

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To be fair, I looked up the curve for that motor and its not bad. The graph is misleading as it compresses the torque curve and expands the power curve but if I'm reading it right it looks like 220 ft-lbs is the lowest point on the graph, which isn't bad. i mean that was peak torque for the Cherokee's High output 4.0L I6

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > HammerheadFistpunch 10/21/2014 at 15:50

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But for the 4.3:

HammerheadFistpunch > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 10/21/2014 at 15:56

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its funny though, look at the scale for torque and HP. the SAE provides the data and GM massages it to send a message. with the LFX, they expand the hp scale to make it look very impressive and they compress the torque scale to flatten it out. With the 4.3 they flatten the HP curve so its closer to the torque curve and expand the torque curve for better resolution. Result: the truck engine looks more trucky and the car engine looks faster. The truth is that the torque curves on both are pretty close, though the extra torque on the 4.3 would be welcome.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > HammerheadFistpunch 10/21/2014 at 16:01

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An0ther big thing with the 4.3, is the extra torque comes nearly 1k RPM sooner. But yeah, it is funny how they make the 3.6 look really revvy.

HammerheadFistpunch > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 10/21/2014 at 16:23

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I've tried to divine the numbers based on the graphs and put them on a graph of uniform scale

Red is LFX 3.6 ft-lbs, Purple is 4.3 Ft-lbs

Green is 4.3 hp, Blue is LFX 3.6 HP

You can see that, all things being equal, the LFX actually has a flatter torque curve but less of it from idle to redline. The hp curve for the 4.3 is better but it runs out of breath at high rpm where the LFX keeps pulling. Frankly, the 4.3 is a better motor in my opinion, unless you REALLY want that extra 15 hp right at the top of the rev range.